new 48ft bogie coaches

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    • #250121
      Colin Rainsbury
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        Hi Guys while I was having a look at the Irish model railway website,  someone posted the following:-

        Evolution Coaches

        looks like some additional variety

         

        Colin Rainsbury

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      • #250126
        Paul Willis
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          A group of us modellers in the Great Eastern Railway Society have been discussing these.

          The general consensus is that Rapido is launching a massive leap back to the 1970s, when you could have the Flying Scotsman it LNER green, GWR green and LMS red…

          There are a large range of prototypical kits available covering a wide number of pre-Grouping companies.  For the GER, that is through D&S primarily.

          Why would we want to have something that is less accurate?

          Best,

          Paul

        • #250131
          Colin Rainsbury
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            Hi Paul

            An interesting point, I guess that Rapido must have done their homework on this and I would guess that they may be following Hornbys lead with the toy train market.

            They may not fly with the model railway purest, but I am sure if these are anything like the Hatton Genesis 4 and 6-wheel coaches they will sell a lot of them.

            Railway modelling has changed a lot over the years, when I started, it was Triang Hornby RTR or white metal kits, over time I have seen the introduction of brass etched kits then plastic injection mouldings followed by 3D prints.

            Years ago, 009 modelling was very much a scratch builder’s domain until cheap N gauge chassis became available, then the market got flooded with cheap white metal kits.

            Now it has more 3D prints and a larger range of RTR stock as well since many of the main producers were running out of 4mm standard gauge models to produce.

            My feeling is that for those of us who take our modelling seriously, we will always be dependent on the supporting cottage industry kit manufacturers that we have today.

            Like I read over on RM web as someone replied you don’t have to buy them, so I guess it remains horses for courses.

            Since I happen to like light railway modelling I can see that I might be tempted.

             

            Colin Rainsbury

             

             

             

          • #250140
            Nigel Burbidge
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              I fully agree it is horses for courses and it will be interesting to see if any enterprising soul will take measurements from these offerings and see if, with judicious use of a razor saw and plasticard, they can make a scale model of a coach not even available through etched kits…. Mind you, at the price being asked for them that soul would either need to be brave or have deep pockets (possibly both?).

              Nigel

            • #250145
              Richard Slipper
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                On Paul Willis said

                A group of us modellers in the Great Eastern Railway Society have been discussing these.

                The general consensus is that Rapido is launching a massive leap back to the 1970s, when you could have the Flying Scotsman it LNER green, GWR green and LMS red…

                There are a large range of prototypical kits available covering a wide number of pre-Grouping companies.  For the GER, that is through D&S primarily.

                Why would we want to have something that is less accurate?

                Best,

                Paul

                To suggest this is a return to the Seventies is perhaps a little exaggerated. And I wonder if you mean 50s and 60s. I don’t recall GWR Green or LMS Red ‘Flying Scotsmans’ in the 1970s. There were certain locomotives which appeared in various guises and I recall the Wrenn BR 4MT 2-6-4T being one, no doubt there were others. But Tri-ang particularly who I think made 4472 were trying to do things better. I’m sure somebody will have all the facts.

                The carriages from Rapido – like the Genesis 4 and 6 wheelers – will it seems have differences to address some of the differences – roof vents, roof styles, underframe equipment etc. I imagine for all but the most educated in rolling stock of all companies they will all look the part.

                While some elitist modellers may look down on these coaches and will not want something that ‘is less accurate’ there will, I am sure, be many who for various reasons – time, ability, age, disablement perhaps or are just happy to compromise, will welcome the additional variety and opportunities afforded while accepting those compromises in full knowledge that what they have is not exactly right.

                Even at the elite levels of the hobby there are compromises – plastic imitating metal and wood, couplings, non-working vacuum brakes (perhaps they should) locomotives with electric motors in their boilers and computer chips to enable operation not to mention fake loads in wagons (Does anybody have liquids in their tanks wagons? If not why not?) and no miniature people getting on and off carriages. Authentic smoke and steam emissions remain elusive. Resin water, nylon grass, copper tree trunks, cardboard/styrene houses. The list of compromises is legion.

                It’s all a case of degree, some will settle for less while others demand more. 🙂

                 

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