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    • #239285
      Stuart Firth
      Participant

        Just to kick things off and test my posting abilities I thought I’d add a couple of pics of my industrial layout ‘Saltport’. It is based on a real place that existed quite briefly on the banks of the Rivers Weaver and Mersey in Cheshire. There was little development and it faded away in the early years of the 20th Century. However great things could have happened…

        Here we see Saltport Estates no.5 (Hawthorn Leslie, from a modified Stewart Reidpath lead casting), running past the engine shed, and Saltport Harbour Authority crane tank no.40 (Robert Stephenson & Hawthorns, from a Backwoods kit) approaching the East yard.

         

      • #239298
        pcarrick59
        Participant

          Some lovely shots, Stuart. It certainly is superb layout you’ve built there.

          Envious of Colchester….

        • #239581
          Adam Beckett-Hester
          Participant

            Excellent work

          • #239712
            Peter Rigby
            Participant

              Very nice work Stuart. Is it a ‘layout that never leaves home’?

            • #239714
              Stuart Firth
              Participant

                Thank you – Yes, very much so – it moved house 21 years ago but that was quite an undertaking and it was nowhere near as complete back then.

              • #239788
                Douglas Firth
                Participant

                  Dear Stuart,

                  Great modelling and good to see where your excellent models run.

                  Thanks for posting,

                  Douglas Firth  17006

                  Western Australia

                • #239799
                  Stuart Firth
                  Participant

                    Thanks Doug. I include a picture of one of the line’s more recent loco’s, a Hudswell Clarke & Rodgers  0-4-0 ST made from an old K’s kit, using a chassis kit by Ambis Engineering.

                     

                     

                  • #239801
                    Peter Rigby
                    Participant

                      Very nice work Stuart. May I ask whether there is an Area Group extant in Western Australia. I am aware that there are a small number of EMGS members in the state.

                      Thanks,

                      Peter

                    • #239802
                      Stuart Firth
                      Participant

                        Thanks Peter. I’m in Essex by the way, it’s Douglas in Australia – no relation, as far as I know !

                      • #239813
                        Douglas Firth
                        Participant

                          Gentlemen,

                          To answer your question Peter, We have a small group of members that loosely keep in touch but no official group which may include some non members, not sure, I am a relatively new member of the society(4 yrs) also one is a long time p4 modeller.

                          Stuart, I don’t know but my great grandfather came to Sydney to work on building the mortuary station and clocktower at Central railway station. Late 1800’s. We came from Huddersfield and wrote to members of the family in  the UK until the second world war and then nothing. We always thought that the writer must have been killed in WW2. I replied to your post because I liked the authentic look of your model railway. My model is of a GWR Edwardian branch line terminus. Thanks, Doug.

                        • #240074
                          Stuart Firth
                          Participant

                            Some of the line’s ‘heavy metal’ parked outside one of the layout’s larger structures.

                            The Garratt is from a Backwoods Miniatures kit and the Nasmyth Wilson Scratchbuilt. The building is made from an American DPM modular kit. I can only justify such large loco’s by assuming there is an element of banking of trains up to the exchange sidings – I make it up as I go along!

                             

                             

                          • #240081
                            Douglas Firth
                            Participant

                              Great looking loco’s Stuart,

                              There is something about industrial layouts it must be the gritty authenticity that adds to the realism of a model.

                              Douglas Firth.

                            • #244228
                              Nick Ridgway
                              Participant

                                I love the way you’ve turned down the colour in some of those images, Stuart. It adds realism, because we are used to seeing steam subjects that way. It’s certainly something I intend to follow – all the way to monochrome, even!

                              • #244458
                                Stuart Firth
                                Participant

                                  A couple of recent additions to the line’s wagon fleet, both courtesy of Messrs Tri-ang !

                                  The Hull & Barnsley van is the old Tri-ang fish van, with a new chassis that uses MJT bits, and the L&Y diagram 3 van, now sold off by the LMS and in use as an internal user, is the ‘insulfish’ van that was once pale blue and ‘graced’ my childhood train set! It too has MJT underpinnings, and has had the roof line lowered slightly.

                                  I think it’s fascinating to know that someone at Tri-ang all those years ago cared enough about what were basically toys to ensure they were pretty fair representations of pre-grouping wagons. I wonder if they did anything else that we could use?

                                • #244459
                                  Nick Ridgway
                                  Participant

                                    Nice work, Stuart!

                                    Ray Hodson and I were considering doing the L&Y diagram 3 van in some numbers for the Eastwood L&Y layout, which I believe is booked for ExpoEM 2023. He hasn’t made a commitment, so I have disposed of several via a popular internet auction site.

                                    I still have a few left, though.

                                    • This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by Nick Ridgway.
                                  • #244507
                                    Stuart Firth
                                    Participant

                                      Following some chat about the Forum and a certain lack of user comments, plus the desire to avoid too much duplication, I am adding this link to my layout thread on RMWeb, where the full story is told, and using this as a test of my ability to post such links.

                                      https://www.rmweb.co.uk/index.php?/topic/153520-the-saltport-saga/

                                       

                                       

                                    • #247640
                                      Stuart Firth
                                      Participant

                                        The latest loco to join the stud is something rather different for me, partly because I didn’t build it and partly because of its size…

                                        I bought this Stanier 2-6-4T on the 2nd hand stall at Expo in 2022. A Hornby body on a Comet chassis. Modern motor and gears, possibly Ultrascale wheels, all for £20 – I couldn’t resist. It needed a small amount of work to get it running properly, but nothing else happened until recently when I finally got round to painting it. Dirty post-war condition, unlined (conveniently). Compared to most of my loco’s this is just so big!

                                         

                                        • #247795
                                          Nick Ridgway
                                          Participant

                                            One might ask what such a powerful suburban passenger tank engine is doing lurking around a place like Saltport!

                                            <ducks to avoid brickbats> 😉

                                        • #247746
                                          Nigel Burbidge
                                          Participant

                                            Stuart, that is indeed quite a beast when compared to other locos in your fleet.  Having seen photos of some of the tight curves, presumably it’s availability is restricted?!

                                            cheers

                                            Nigel

                                          • #247785
                                            Stuart Firth
                                            Participant

                                              Hi Nigel, it can (just) handle most of the layout, but not this part:

                                               

                                            • #247786
                                              Nigel Burbidge
                                              Participant

                                                That’s a lovely piece of industrial track work; very reminiscent of the Romford brewery layout! I can’t imagine anything longer than a short 0-4-0 going around that.

                                                Nigel

                                              • #247787
                                                Nick Ridgway
                                                Participant

                                                  That’s not a curve; that’s a corner! 🤔

                                                • #247797
                                                  Stuart Firth
                                                  Participant
                                                    On Nick Ridgway said

                                                    One might ask what such a powerful suburban passenger tank engine is doing lurking around a place like Saltport!

                                                    <ducks to avoid brickbats> 😉

                                                    I like them – is that a good enough excuse? I also have a Hornby Fowler 2-6-4T from my youth, with all the late period Perseverance add-ons, waiting for me to build a Perseverance chassis for it. Don’t worry though – the next loco project will be at the opposite end of the size scale !

                                                  • #247807
                                                    Nigel Burbidge
                                                    Participant

                                                      Sounds good enough to me! A sound application of Rule 1.

                                                      Nigel

                                                    • #248050
                                                      Stuart Firth
                                                      Participant

                                                        The latest loco, as promised, somewhat more suitable. Impetus kit, and has flown together so far.

                                                        • #248053
                                                          Nigel Burbidge
                                                          Participant

                                                            That is rather lovely Stuart! I suspect you may have to start figuring out where to load it with lead as otherwise it may struggle towing an economic load!

                                                            Nigel

                                                        • #248051
                                                          Paul Tomlinson
                                                          Participant

                                                            I love these little Rustons. Hats off to you, I failed miserably to correctly form the bonnet on mine. I put it back in the box and bought a 7mm version, which suited my fat fingers a lot better. I expect you already know that RT Models do a chassis kit, and High Level do a quad-driver for it. Maybe I’ll have another bash. Please show us more of yours as it progresses. Cheers.

                                                            Here’s my 7mm one. I think I bought it from Robin Arkinstall at an exhibition in Paddington.

                                                             

                                                          • #248056
                                                            Stuart Firth
                                                            Participant

                                                              Thanks both. Keeping the drive simple and 2 wheel drive as designed, so I can use the gearbox and Sharman wheels that came with it.

                                                            • #248063
                                                              Douglas Firth
                                                              Participant

                                                                I have been following your last few builds with interest. I tried to post a photo of my 1366 loco but it failed so I gave up.

                                                                The Ruston will be a fine addition to the layout but I too am worried about weight or the lack there of.

                                                                Well done,

                                                                Doug Firth.

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