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October 1, 2021 at 8:39 am #239285
Stuart Firth
ParticipantJust to kick things off and test my posting abilities I thought I’d add a couple of pics of my industrial layout ‘Saltport’. It is based on a real place that existed quite briefly on the banks of the Rivers Weaver and Mersey in Cheshire. There was little development and it faded away in the early years of the 20th Century. However great things could have happened…
Here we see Saltport Estates no.5 (Hawthorn Leslie, from a modified Stewart Reidpath lead casting), running past the engine shed, and Saltport Harbour Authority crane tank no.40 (Robert Stephenson & Hawthorns, from a Backwoods kit) approaching the East yard.
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October 1, 2021 at 10:07 am #239298
pcarrick59
ParticipantSome lovely shots, Stuart. It certainly is superb layout you’ve built there.
Envious of Colchester….
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October 22, 2021 at 5:45 pm #239581
Membership Secretary
KeymasterExcellent work
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November 3, 2021 at 3:18 pm #239712
Peter Rigby
ParticipantVery nice work Stuart. Is it a ‘layout that never leaves home’?
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November 3, 2021 at 3:56 pm #239714
Stuart Firth
ParticipantThank you – Yes, very much so – it moved house 21 years ago but that was quite an undertaking and it was nowhere near as complete back then.
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November 14, 2021 at 6:51 am #239788
Douglas Firth
ParticipantDear Stuart,
Great modelling and good to see where your excellent models run.
Thanks for posting,
Douglas Firth 17006
Western Australia
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November 15, 2021 at 11:15 am #239799
Stuart Firth
ParticipantThanks Doug. I include a picture of one of the line’s more recent loco’s, a Hudswell Clarke & Rodgers 0-4-0 ST made from an old K’s kit, using a chassis kit by Ambis Engineering.
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November 15, 2021 at 12:00 pm #239801
Peter Rigby
ParticipantVery nice work Stuart. May I ask whether there is an Area Group extant in Western Australia. I am aware that there are a small number of EMGS members in the state.
Thanks,
Peter
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November 15, 2021 at 12:23 pm #239802
Stuart Firth
ParticipantThanks Peter. I’m in Essex by the way, it’s Douglas in Australia – no relation, as far as I know !
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November 17, 2021 at 9:20 am #239813
Douglas Firth
ParticipantGentlemen,
To answer your question Peter, We have a small group of members that loosely keep in touch but no official group which may include some non members, not sure, I am a relatively new member of the society(4 yrs) also one is a long time p4 modeller.
Stuart, I don’t know but my great grandfather came to Sydney to work on building the mortuary station and clocktower at Central railway station. Late 1800’s. We came from Huddersfield and wrote to members of the family in the UK until the second world war and then nothing. We always thought that the writer must have been killed in WW2. I replied to your post because I liked the authentic look of your model railway. My model is of a GWR Edwardian branch line terminus. Thanks, Doug.
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December 2, 2021 at 4:52 pm #240074
Stuart Firth
ParticipantSome of the line’s ‘heavy metal’ parked outside one of the layout’s larger structures.
The Garratt is from a Backwoods Miniatures kit and the Nasmyth Wilson Scratchbuilt. The building is made from an American DPM modular kit. I can only justify such large loco’s by assuming there is an element of banking of trains up to the exchange sidings – I make it up as I go along!
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December 3, 2021 at 2:11 am #240081
Douglas Firth
ParticipantGreat looking loco’s Stuart,
There is something about industrial layouts it must be the gritty authenticity that adds to the realism of a model.
Douglas Firth.
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March 26, 2023 at 5:02 pm #244228
Nick Ridgway
ParticipantI love the way you’ve turned down the colour in some of those images, Stuart. It adds realism, because we are used to seeing steam subjects that way. It’s certainly something I intend to follow – all the way to monochrome, even!
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April 20, 2023 at 9:24 am #244458
Stuart Firth
ParticipantA couple of recent additions to the line’s wagon fleet, both courtesy of Messrs Tri-ang !
The Hull & Barnsley van is the old Tri-ang fish van, with a new chassis that uses MJT bits, and the L&Y diagram 3 van, now sold off by the LMS and in use as an internal user, is the ‘insulfish’ van that was once pale blue and ‘graced’ my childhood train set! It too has MJT underpinnings, and has had the roof line lowered slightly.
I think it’s fascinating to know that someone at Tri-ang all those years ago cared enough about what were basically toys to ensure they were pretty fair representations of pre-grouping wagons. I wonder if they did anything else that we could use?
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April 20, 2023 at 10:11 am #244459
Nick Ridgway
ParticipantNice work, Stuart!
Ray Hodson and I were considering doing the L&Y diagram 3 van in some numbers for the Eastwood L&Y layout, which I believe is booked for ExpoEM 2023. He hasn’t made a commitment, so I have disposed of several via a popular internet auction site.
I still have a few left, though.
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April 24, 2023 at 10:31 am #244507
Stuart Firth
ParticipantFollowing some chat about the Forum and a certain lack of user comments, plus the desire to avoid too much duplication, I am adding this link to my layout thread on RMWeb, where the full story is told, and using this as a test of my ability to post such links.
https://www.rmweb.co.uk/index.php?/topic/153520-the-saltport-saga/
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January 9, 2024 at 10:22 am #247640
Stuart Firth
ParticipantThe latest loco to join the stud is something rather different for me, partly because I didn’t build it and partly because of its size…
I bought this Stanier 2-6-4T on the 2nd hand stall at Expo in 2022. A Hornby body on a Comet chassis. Modern motor and gears, possibly Ultrascale wheels, all for £20 – I couldn’t resist. It needed a small amount of work to get it running properly, but nothing else happened until recently when I finally got round to painting it. Dirty post-war condition, unlined (conveniently). Compared to most of my loco’s this is just so big!
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January 23, 2024 at 2:47 pm #247795
Nick Ridgway
ParticipantOne might ask what such a powerful suburban passenger tank engine is doing lurking around a place like Saltport!
<ducks to avoid brickbats> 😉
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January 18, 2024 at 6:15 pm #247746
Nigel Burbidge
ParticipantStuart, that is indeed quite a beast when compared to other locos in your fleet. Having seen photos of some of the tight curves, presumably it’s availability is restricted?!
cheers
Nigel
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January 22, 2024 at 10:07 am #247785
Stuart Firth
ParticipantHi Nigel, it can (just) handle most of the layout, but not this part:
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January 22, 2024 at 11:31 am #247786
Nigel Burbidge
ParticipantThat’s a lovely piece of industrial track work; very reminiscent of the Romford brewery layout! I can’t imagine anything longer than a short 0-4-0 going around that.
Nigel
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January 22, 2024 at 11:34 am #247787
Nick Ridgway
ParticipantThat’s not a curve; that’s a corner! 🤔
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January 23, 2024 at 4:10 pm #247797
Stuart Firth
ParticipantOn Nick Ridgway saidOne might ask what such a powerful suburban passenger tank engine is doing lurking around a place like Saltport!
<ducks to avoid brickbats> 😉
I like them – is that a good enough excuse? I also have a Hornby Fowler 2-6-4T from my youth, with all the late period Perseverance add-ons, waiting for me to build a Perseverance chassis for it. Don’t worry though – the next loco project will be at the opposite end of the size scale !
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January 24, 2024 at 5:44 pm #247807
Nigel Burbidge
ParticipantSounds good enough to me! A sound application of Rule 1.
Nigel
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February 20, 2024 at 2:23 pm #248050
Stuart Firth
ParticipantThe latest loco, as promised, somewhat more suitable. Impetus kit, and has flown together so far.
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February 20, 2024 at 7:50 pm #248053
Nigel Burbidge
ParticipantThat is rather lovely Stuart! I suspect you may have to start figuring out where to load it with lead as otherwise it may struggle towing an economic load!
Nigel
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February 20, 2024 at 4:34 pm #248051
Paul Tomlinson
ParticipantI love these little Rustons. Hats off to you, I failed miserably to correctly form the bonnet on mine. I put it back in the box and bought a 7mm version, which suited my fat fingers a lot better. I expect you already know that RT Models do a chassis kit, and High Level do a quad-driver for it. Maybe I’ll have another bash. Please show us more of yours as it progresses. Cheers.
Here’s my 7mm one. I think I bought it from Robin Arkinstall at an exhibition in Paddington.
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February 20, 2024 at 8:05 pm #248056
Stuart Firth
ParticipantThanks both. Keeping the drive simple and 2 wheel drive as designed, so I can use the gearbox and Sharman wheels that came with it.
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February 21, 2024 at 12:44 am #248063
Douglas Firth
ParticipantI have been following your last few builds with interest. I tried to post a photo of my 1366 loco but it failed so I gave up.
The Ruston will be a fine addition to the layout but I too am worried about weight or the lack there of.
Well done,
Doug Firth.
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February 26, 2024 at 4:45 pm #248101
Stuart Firth
ParticipantHi Doug it would be fine with 4 wheel drive but in the interests of keeping it simple I went with the original 2 wheel drive kit design, so it will have limited haulage powers!
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April 22, 2024 at 8:19 am #248524
Stuart Firth
ParticipantWell it didn’t take too long in the end, and I finished it this weekend. It won’t pull much (OK – 2 wagons!) but it does run very slowly and smoothly. A great project and good fun to build.
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April 22, 2024 at 10:35 pm #248567
Nick Ridgway
ParticipantLovely little thing, Stuart. Nice one! 🙂
I’m still hoping for a photo of that David Coleman loco to appear here. Go on. I dare you! 😉
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April 22, 2024 at 9:04 am #248525
Paul Tomlinson
ParticipantThat looks very fine indeed. The shade of green you’ve used suits it very well. No doubt the (rather portly) crew add some useful ballast! Cheers.
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April 22, 2024 at 9:26 am #248527
Douglas Firth
ParticipantShe looks teriffic. I have used that figure a few times with mods. He gives the impression of being the inspector of newly finished locos! Well Done.
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April 22, 2024 at 10:26 am #248528
Stuart Firth
ParticipantThanks chaps – the crew are plastic I’m afraid, though I discovered that putting ballast that far back had no effect on traction anyway. That character’s chief benefit is that he hides the motor rather well…
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April 23, 2024 at 7:37 am #248568
Nigel Burbidge
ParticipantLovely loco Stuart! Really looks the part and the motor is very well hidden given such a small unit.
Nigel
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April 23, 2024 at 9:13 am #248569
Stuart Firth
ParticipantHi Nick – You mean this monstrosity?
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April 23, 2024 at 11:38 am #248575
Nick Ridgway
ParticipantOnly a mother could love it. 🙂
“What do you make of that?” – with apologies to the late, great, David Coleman.
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